Abstract: In his 2004 interview with Maurice Better, Irving Brotslaw talks about his time as a professor in the School for Workers. He talks about his interests in the labor unions, faculty governance, and education. He speaks of his early years in Buffalo, New York, and how professors sparked his interest in labor studies. Keywords: Early years; Interest in labor relations; International Brotherhood of Papermakers; School for Workers in Madison and Milwaukee; Course materials; Trade union bargaining power; High School Institute; Summer Institutes; Films in labor education; Tenure; Wages; Faculty governance; Political activism; Relationship with unions; Transformation of the labor movement and labor education.